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Avoiding Flu Vaccine Toxicity

December 14th, 2008 · 10 Comments

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When I recommended here a month ago that we all get vaccinated against influenza this year, I had no idea how much controversy it would stir up. Some of the concerns are legitimate, but we have alternatives. Other concerns stem from irresponsible rants on the Internet that I’ve traced back to a totally discredited South Carolina doctor.

My article here last month jumped the gun. I knew that the flu authorities at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) wanted to talk with me so that I could help get the word out. But since CDC and the Health Central Network weren’t able to work out the arrangement in time, I wrote then because the flu season was already upon us.

Now, I have had the opportunity to interview the CDC’s expert on the flu. Carolyn B. Bridges, MD, is the associate director for science in its influenza division. I focused that interview on the concerns that you shared in your comments to last month’s article.

One short comment succinctly summarizes those concerns. “I don’t get the flu shot because it has [thimerosal] and other toxic substances,”mb wrote. “And the flu virus mutation which is going around is just as likely not to be covered by the virus design[ed] for the year. Also, I don’t want a live virus vaccination for anything, as it would automatically give me the disease in question.”

The biggest concern is the use of thimerosal, a preservative that the United States Code of Federal Regulations requires in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines. Flaming those concerns the most has been a doctor in South Carolina.

“According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world’s leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals),” according to popular web page, “if an individual has had 5 consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied) his/her chances of getting Alzheimer’s Disease is 10 times higher than if he/she had one, 2 or no shots. Dr.Fudenberg said it was so and that it was due to mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot. The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction.”

That sounds terrible! So I had to check it out, starting with my question to Dr. Bridges at the CDC.

“I have seen stuff like that on the Internet,” she replied. “But of course that is not the case. the people who have got the influenza vaccine the most are people who are 65 and older. Those are the people who have been recommended to get the influenza vaccine the longest. The older one is the more like you are to have had the influenza vaccination, and age is also associated with a person also unfortunately getting Alzheimer’s.”

But there’s much more. What about Dr. Fudenberg’s credentials?

It turns out that he’s not the most reliable doc out there. The South Carolina medical board found Dr. Fudenberg “guilty of engaging in dishonorable, unethical, or unprofessional conduct,” fined him $10,000, ordered him to surrender his license to prescribe controlled substances (narcotic drugs), and placed his license on indefinite suspension.”

And what about Dr. Fudenberg’s “facts” about mercury and aluminum in the flu vaccine?

Indeed, some flu shots contain thimerosal, which is about 50 percent mercury by weight. But it’s not the bad mercury we worry about in fish.

“Methylmercury makes its way through the food chain in fish, animals and humans. At high levels, it can be toxic to people,” according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “Thimerosal — a preservative still used in the influenza vaccine –contains a different form of mercury called ethylmercury. Studies comparing ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are processed differently in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and excreted much more rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury (the type of mercury in the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than methylmercury (the type of mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the body and cause harm.

Note that the Children’s Hospital says that thimerosal is “still used” in the influenza vaccine. The governments of developed countries have removed it from vaccines given to children, who are of course most at risk of mercury poisoning.

“There is no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site,” according to the CDC. “However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.”

We can get thimerosal-free vaccines. Perhaps in an excess of caution, I’ll do that next year (too late for this year, since I already got my flu shot).

It might not be easy to find. A correspondent named Bob wrote me personally:

“Of the seven sites that I have contacted about the thimerosal free flu shots, five basically laughed at me and told me not to worry. The VA said that I would have to order it for next year and were otherwise noncommittal. The last -Walgreens said that they were aware of it, but would not stock it for only one person. Even my own doctor said the call for it was so small they could not stock it for the flu season and he didn’t recall anyone asking for it before. Even emails to news agencies and local newspapers have gotten me no response. Most said it is a non-story.”

It’s definitely not a “non-story.” It is a big story. So I researched it as well as I could this year.

“For someone who is at high risk for influenza complications,” Dr. Bridges says, “the potential risk of exposure to thimerosal needs to be weighed against the real risk of complications and death from influenza.” But, she added, “There is quite a bit of vaccine out there that is in single dose vials that is mercury free or has only perhaps trace levels of thimerosal. If you have concerns, ask for a thimerosal-free or preservative-free vaccine. Clinicians may not choose to order it, so you may have to check other places to find it.

The starting place turns out to be Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. It describes the five inactivate flu vaccines and the one live flu vaccine available in 2008/2009.

Two of these vaccines, CSL Limited’s Afluria and sanofi pasteur’s Fluzone, are thimerosal-free, that is mercury-free, in their single-dose prefilled syringes and prefilled syringes or single-dose vials respectively. GlaxoSmithKline’s Fluarix has a trace amount of thimerosal. Fluzone, however, does have a trace amount of another toxic substance, formaldehyde.

None of the flu vaccine have the other toxic substance that Dr. Fudenberg wrote about, aluminium or alum any more, if they ever did, according to the Johns Hopkins table. Dr. Bridges confirms this:

“As for aluminum, none of the U.S. flu vaccines contains aluminum that I am aware,” she wrote me. “However, an adjuvant (a substance added to a vaccine to help boost the immune response and, hence, level of protection against getting sick) that has been evaluated in some vaccines does contain aluminum — theadjuvant is called alum. I do not believe any influenza vaccine is licensed for use anywhere, though, that uses alum.”

Next year I’ll search for Afluria, since it is the only flu vaccine that is totally free — not even any trace amounts — of all these toxic substances. If that fails, I will usesanofi pasteur’s Fluzone vaccine. But not even people at CSL Limited or sanofi pasteur could tell me which clinics have their thimerosal-free vaccine. That’s because all these companies use a middle man, a so-called distributor.

However, Donna Cary, sanofi pasteur’s director of public relations, was able to tell me which distributors have which vaccines on hand or on order at the moment. That information is online in an Excel spreadsheet.

What about the live vaccine, MedImmune’s FluMist? The comment by mb, which I cited earlier, says that he or she doesn’t want it.

Quite correct. Dr. Bridges confirms that people with diabetes should not take the live vaccine.

And what about mb’s other comment that because the virus mutates, it is “just as likely not to be covered” by this year’s vaccine.

That is half true. The virus does mutate from year to year.

“So far things look very good,” Dr. Bridges told me. “We are very encouraged how it is going to work. Most of the time the decision is correct and the predominant strain is well covered by the vaccine. In the past 21 years we have had only one year when the vaccine was so off — the strain was so much different from the vaccine — that there was very little to no benefit. That was the 1997-98 season when the Sydney strain emerged. We have had some other years when there wasn’t a perfect match, but the viruses have been similar enough that the vaccine provided at least partial protection. Even when we didn’t have an optimal match, lots of studies still showed benefit.”

Even before Dr. Bridges and I talked, she read my previous article. She took exception to a couple of points that I made.

“If you live in Alabama, Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, Virginia, or West Virginia,” I wrote, “it may be too late for you [to get vaccinated]. The flu has already reached a ‘moderate’ level in those eight states, according to a great new Google tool.”

I met that it might be too late — if you already have the flu, but didn’t write that well. Dr. Bridges says that, “CDC would like to emphasize that yearly flu vaccination should continue throughout the influenza season, into December, January, and beyond. Most of the time influenza activity peaks in January or later, so people who reside in the states listed above should still go out and get a flu vaccine if they haven’t already.”

She also emphasize that there are important limitations to Google Flu Trends tool:

“Flu Trends is a useful adjunct to the current CDC surveillance systems, but it should not be considered a replacement. One of the main strengths of this system is its timeliness. This system can act as an early warning system for outbreaks since the lag time on this system is only one day, compared with other systems that are updated weekly. Another advantage is its simplicity. The system was very complex to develop, but now is fully automated. Also, the system doesn’t rely on reporting by providers, which can be patchy and time-consuming.

However, evaluation of the data quality is difficult with a system like this. There is no laboratory confirmation of cases. Any blip in the data needs verification that an outbreak is indeed occurring. The overall quality of the data depends on the assumption that web searches do in fact reflect health care-seeking behavior. It is possible that newspaper headlines can cause a spike inILI -related web searches that have nothing to do with someone actually being sick. A drug recall for a brand of cough syrup could also cause a false spike. And finally, it’s unclear how people will change their web searching behavior once it is known that Google is using their data for surveillance. The stability of the system is dependent on consistent Internet access over time. And finally, it will need ongoing adjustment and validation to keep it up-to-date.”

Further, she says that the Google Flu Trends tool has some additional limitations:

Accuracy, although this system correlated well, we can not know the effects of media or other biases until they happen.

The tool may miss cases of influenza spreading among elderly people, because they are less likely to use the Internet than younger people

Also, many people who search for flu-related terms have viral infections that are not actually influenza.

Not every person who searches for “flu” is actually sick, but a pattern emerges when all the flu-related search queries from each state and region are added together.

All in all, your comments and the response by Dr. Bridges shed a lot of light on a complicated flu shot picture. While the picture is complicated, it’s not cloudy:

We need to get our annual flu shot. If we can, I think it would be wise to get one without any toxic additives. But if that’s not possible, even a shot that contains thimerosal is better than the possible alternative — a case of flu.

This is a mirror of one of my articles that was originally published on Health Central.

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  • 1 frank hartman // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    Aluminum Toxicity:epidemic
    Aluminum
    Aluminum has been described as “a protoplasmic poison and a pernicious and persistent neurotoxin.”
    While the body is able to excrete aluminum in its natural form, the element, like mercury, is toxic to all lifeforms when concentrated in their tissues.
    No living systems use aluminum as part of a biochemical process. It has a tendency to accumulate in the brain and, to a lesser extent, in the bones. It is considerably less toxic than mercury, arsenic, lead or cadmium, but it appears to be more persistent than any of them. The danger is one that only manifests itself over long periods of time. It is certainly prudent to avoid as many known sources as possible. However, in today’s world, aluminum cannot be completely avoided; it is in our water, our food, the air we breathe, the soil and numerous pharmaceutical products including vaccines.
    The MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) on aluminum confirms that aluminum is a poison that accumulates in the brain and tissues of the body. The MSDS on aluminum states the following under Ingestion: “Chronic ingestion of aluminum may cause Aluminum related Bone Disease or aluminum-induced Osteomalacia with fracturing Osteodystrophy, microcytic anemia, weakness, fatigue, visual and auditory hallucinations, memory loss, speech and language impairment (dysarthria, stuttering, stammering, anomia, hypofluency, aphasia, and, eventually, mutism), epileptic seizures (focal or grand mal), motor disturbances (tremors, myoclonic jerks, ataxia, convulsions, asterixis, motor apraxia, muscle fatigue), dementia (personality changes, altered mood, depression, diminished alertness, lethargy, ‘clouding of the sensorium’, intellectual deterioration, obtundation, coma), and altered EEG.
    In simple terms, the most notable symptoms of aluminum poisoning are diminishing intellectual function, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate and, in extreme cases, full blown dementia and Alzheimers. Aluminum toxicity also causes bone softening and bone mass loss, kidney and other soft tissue damage and, in large enough doses, can cause cardiac arrest.”
    its.
    The last three decades have seen a steady increase of aluminum in our environment and diet. In 2006, the United States alone produced approximately 2.37 million tons of aluminum. In 1986, that figure was about 1.4 million tons. The total amount of aluminum in the average “healthy” adult today is from 50 to 150 mg. The estimated amount being ingested through food and water, excluding medications, ranges from 10 mg. to more than 100 mg. aluminum in our bones, lungs and brain (50 percent in our skeleton, 25 percent in lung tissue, 25 percent in the brain.)
    According to the Nutrition Almanac, “Trace amounts of aluminum applied to the brain surface of animals resulted in seizures and fits. Other studies demonstrated that aluminum salts injected into the fluid surrounding the brain produced changes that are similar to those occurring in senile dementia. In further animal studies, cats given aluminum became slow learners at experimental tasks. The level of aluminum in the cats’ brains was equivalent to the amount in the brains of persons who have a type of senility called Alzheimer’s disease.”
    Some of the more common sources of “avoidable” aluminum:
    1) cooking utensils—aluminum pots, teflon pans and foil-wrapped foods;
    2) beverages in aluminum cans – the phosphoric acid in soft drinks leaches aluminum from the walls of the can;
    3) added as an anti-caking agent to salt and sugar;
    4) baking powder;
    5) antiperspirants;
    6) bleaching agent in white flour;
    7) used as an emulsifier in some processed cheeses;
    8) cake mixes, self-rising flour and frozen dough;
    9) commercial teas;
    10) toothpaste, sunscreen, lotions, powders/talcs and cosmetics;
    11) infant formulas – soy formulas contain 10 times more aluminum than milk based formulas;
    12) cigarette filters;
    13) anti-acids, buffered aspirin and many other over-the-counter medications;
    14) occupational—welding and smelting and;
    15) vaccines.
    Aluminum in consumer drugs is a huge problem. , “aspirin is commonly buffered with aluminum hydroxide, aluminum glycinate and other aluminum compounds. Vaginal douches contain potassium aluminum sulfate, ammonium aluminum sulfate, and alum. Antacids contain aluminum hydroxide, magaldrate, dihydroxyaluminum, and aluminum oxide. Antidiarrheal drugs contain aluminum magnesium silicate and kaolin, an aluminum salt.”

    At the National Autism Association conference in Atlanta, Georgia November 8-11, 2007, Dr. David Ayoub gave a rousing presentation on the link between the accumulation of aluminum in the body and the development of autism spectrum disorders. He provided stunning documentation from diagnostic tests done on autistic children showing very high aluminum levels along with known symptoms of aluminum poisoning. He also brought up the Alzheimers/aluminum connection.
    Maalox® extra strength contains 306 mg. of aluminum hydroxide for each dose and Mylanta®contains 500 mg. for each dose.
    But the amount of aluminum being injected into infants as recommended by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is a crime..
    The average birth weight for a baby is 7.4 lbs. (3.4 kg.) They receive soon after birth a hepatitis B vaccine that, if it happens to be Recombivax Hepatitis B from Merck, contains 500 mcg. of aluminum or 147 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight. If the Energix vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline is administered, the pediatric dose is 250 mcg. of aluminum as aluminum hydroxide totaling 73.5 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight.
    The amount of time for these doses of aluminum to be eliminated by an infant’s immature kidneys is unknown, as is the time it takes for aluminum to transfer from muscular tissue to the bloodstream and, ultimately, into the brain. Meanwhile, the infant is continually dosed with aluminum through infant formula, and even in breastmilk but to a lesser degree.
    The average baby visiting their pediatrician for the two-month, well-baby checkup weighs 9.25 lbs. (4.2 kg.) and could receive as much as 1475 mcg. of injected aluminum within 30 min. or 351 mcg. of aluminum per kg. of body weight. The breakdown of vaccines the pediatrician is supposed to administer follows: Hep B (250 to 500 mcg Al); Rotateq® (oral); DTaP (Infanrix® – 625 mcg Al and DAPTACEL® – 330 mcg Al); PCV – pneumococcal vaccine with 8 antigens (125 mcg. Al); Hib – haemophilus influenza type b (225 mcg. Al) and; IPV – inactivated polio vaccine. Then again at 4 and 6 months.
    .
    What are the risks of this accumulating aluminum considering the constant exposure in utero, while feeding, breathing the air outside, and through baby products such as baby powder? Maybe you will want to minimize the number of injections your baby will receive by giving Pediarix®, a five in one shot. Think again. This shot contains as much as 850 mcg. of aluminum. What is most shocking is the fact that an infant’s body systems are all so immature and dependent on his mother’s “raw, enzyme-rich” milk (and love) for proper development. How can such a developing human prosper when breast milk has aluminum. Aluminum is sprayed in chemtrails

  • 2 frank hartman // Jan 14, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    see also brain guard.com

  • 3 David Mendosa // Jan 15, 2009 at 8:07 am

    Dear Frank,

    Thank you so much for your comprehensive comment!

    And while your list of avoidable sources include vaccines, you know, of course, that none of the flu vaccines have it any more.

    Best regards,

    David

  • 4 frank hartman // Jan 15, 2009 at 8:41 am

    I am sorry but that is not true.
    all vaccines contain infectious agents which cause initial coagulation. that is their purpose.
    they are stabilized with aluminum which due to the 2 extra positive charges makes it a massive coagulator.causing microvascular clotting.
    see the following for a fuller explanation presented at University Federales SP brazil

    http://www.zp-research-group.com/B08-1.html

    additionally see the following searcch

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=influenza+vaccine&as_q=aluminum+toxicity&btnG=Search%C2%A0within%C2%A0results

    tif you have trouble with the link , type in influenza vaccine , aluminum toxicity in your search engine

    http://brainguardmd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=1

  • 5 David Mendosa // Jan 15, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Dear Professor Hartman,

    While I deeply appreciate your concern about aluminum, you aren’t taking issue just with me but also with the CDC’s Dr. Bridges and the Institute of Vaccine Safety at the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health in their table, “Components of Influenza Vaccines 2008/9″ at http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/components-Influenza.htm

    I did link that table and quote Dr. Bridges in my article. Her understanding is that the flu vaccine no longer has aluminum or alum in it. And the Johns Hopkins table, which lists all ingredients in all of the flu shots currently available, does not include anything like aluminum or alum.

    Are you saying that they are lying? Or am I missing something on the Johns Hopkins table?

    Best regards,

    David

  • 6 frank hartman // Jan 15, 2009 at 10:32 am

    unlike previous flu vaccinations, this one has no aluminum or any thimocerol.
    it does have MSG which is a coagulator but not nearly the problem of aluminum

  • 7 Autism Grandma // Mar 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    Ethyl mercury found in thimerosol has been shown to be even MORE toxic especially in the vaccines. Please do further research: “From 1996 to 1997, J. Curtis Pendergrass, PhD, did some experiments in my research laboratory at the University of Kentucky that confirmed the toxicity of thimerosal in vaccines. The results appeared on our website (www.altcorp.com)” Boyd E. Haley
    The following regarding the safety of thimerisol is the standard party line, however is NOT TRUE:
    “Thimerosal — a preservative still used in the influenza vaccine –contains a different form of mercury called ethylmercury. Studies comparing ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are processed differently in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and excreted much more rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury (the type of mercury in the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than methylmercury (the type of mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the body and cause harm.”

  • 8 Dovie Byon // Mar 2, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    all new info,much appreciated,keep it comin’

  • 9 Bill Kelleher // Oct 7, 2013 at 6:39 am

    All of you on this thread who are proponents of the flu vaccine and pretending to base your opinion on evidence based medicine, perhaps you should take a look at the Cochrane Collaboration’s review of the flu vaccine. They concluded the following: “The results of this review seem to discourage the utilisation of vaccination against influenza in healthy adults as a routine public health measure. As healthy adults have a low risk of complications due to respiratory disease, the use of the vaccine may be only advised as an individual protection measure against symptoms in specific cases.”

    Specifically, the EVIDENCE REFUTES the claims that the flu vaccine prevents the flu;

    the EVIDENCE REFUTES the claim that it prevents viral transmission in healthy adults;

    and the EVIDENCE REFUTES the claim that the vaccine prevents complications and “saves lives.”

    The EVIDENCE shows little or no benefit for influenza vaccinations.

    “This review includes 15 out of 36 trials funded by industry (four had no funding declaration). An earlier systematic review of 274 influenza vaccine studies published up to 2007 found industry funded studies were published in more prestigious journals and cited more than other studies independently from methodological quality and size. Studies funded from public sources were significantly less likely to report conclusions favorable to the vaccines. The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies. The content and conclusions of this review should be interpreted in light of this finding.”

  • 10 David Mendosa // Oct 7, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Dear Bill,

    Thanks for adding your comment to this discussion. But I can’t help but noticing that the results of the Cochrane Collaboration’s meta-analysis “seem to discourage” routine flu vaccinations “in healthy adults.” Of course, people who don’t have their diabetes under complete control aren’t healthy.

    Namaste,

    David

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